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你做什么工作?

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IOan
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这是一个问题,我问了很多,尤其是在IT行业外的人。

你怎么回答这个问题?

This is a question that I get asked a lot, especially from people outside of the IT Industry.<\/p>

How do you answer this?\u00a0<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","quoteUsername":"IOan","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

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一个
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什么是你寻找特别的吗?测试,软件开发,具体的东西?188金宝搏官网登录app

为我现在的工作,做自动化测试,我经常说“想象一下坐在你的电脑,移动鼠标,点击文本框输入一些文本”。“想象一下,你必须每天做10次,每天6个月”…我所做的是编写一个计算机程序/代码完全相同的步骤发生,像一个幽灵会在电脑前——鼠标将以同样的方式,点击会以同样的方式和输入的文本将会以同样的方式,你无须在电脑前。如果这还不清楚,我去第二步然后显示演示脚本的运行与2…每个人到目前为止有想法没有任何步骤3被需要……

What area are you looking for in particular please? testing in general, software development - something specific?<\/p>

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For my current job, doing test automation, I often say \u201cimagine sitting at your computer, moving the mouse around, clicking on a textbox then entering some text\u201d. \u201cImagine you have to do that 10 times a day, every day for 6 months\u201d\u2026\u00a0what I do is to write a computer program\/code to do exactly those same steps to occur, like a ghost would be at the computer - the mouse would move in the same way, the click would happen in the same way and the text would be entered in the same way without you having to be at the computer. If this still isn\u2019t clear, my go to step 2 is then to show a demo of a script running\u2026\u00a0with those 2 everyone so far has got the idea without any step 3 being needed...<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","quoteUsername":"alex_read","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

IOan
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@alex_read——你的问题是为什么我说这是一个困难的问题。我问的问题你是做什么工作的很难解释,因为上下文不清楚。我说我做自动化,但是人们不知道那是什么,我说我测试API,但是人们不知道这些是什么。

如果我问你,作为社区的一员,我想知道什么是你的角色,你做什么工作(任务、活动)每天/周/月。

@alex_read<\/user-mention>\u00a0- Your question is the reason why I say it is a difficult question. I get asked the question of What do you do <\/em>and find it hard to explain because the context is not clear. Do I say I do automation, but then people do not know what that is, do I say I test API, but again people do not know what those are.\u00a0<\/p>

If I were to ask you, as a member of the community I would want to know what is your Role and what do you do ( task, activities) during a day\/week\/month.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"IOan","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

一个
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神奇&相关分——可怕的问题!那么在这种情况下我想说这是上下文相关的。最后回复是对某人的行业或公司的软件一般来说,甚至测试…188金宝搏官网登录app

如果我跟老一代的家庭成员的消息将会完全不同,一些的”你知道你读过的所有故事在报纸上关于电脑黑客,或者航空公司无法接受预订由于电脑故障或英国银行不允许人们得到他们的工资由于电脑故障吗?我们测试电脑的东西用户如何使用它,在公众面前曾经看来停止这样的问题”。

这个想法呈现相同的概念,但在不同级别的细节取决于小分块的听众有一个名称和大组块领导和圈子。有一些很酷的youtube视频,像“量子计算专家解释一个概念在5的水平”,不同的观众从一个小孩到一个科学家参与聊天。我发现很有趣的古老的方法:cD

Fantastic & relevant points - awesome question! Then in that case I\u2019d say it was more context-dependent. That last reply was more for someone in the industry or company who had an idea of software in general, maybe even testing\u2026<\/p>

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If I was talking to an older generation family member the message would be completely different, something along the lines of \u201cyou know you read about all the stories in the newspaper about computer hacking, or airlines unable to take bookings due to a computer failure or UK banks not allowing people to get their wages due to a computer failure? We test the computer stuff how users would use it, way before the public ever sees it to stop such problems\u201d.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

This idea of presenting the same concept but in different levels of detail depending on the audience has a name of small chunking & big chunking in leadership & presenting circles. There\u2019s some cool youtube videos like \u201cQuantum Computing Expert Explains One Concept in 5 Levels\u201d where different audiences from a small child through to a scientist are engaged for a chat. I found those quite fascinating in a geeky way :cD\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>","quoteUsername":"alex_read","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

anuvip
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非常棘手。我可以解释我做什么,但如果他们不明白,那么最好给一个技术的回答让他们理解。如果他们好奇,他们会进一步问。所以我的答案会是:

“作为一个测试人员,我确保质量的软件或应用程序通过设计和执行测试用例识别和报188金宝搏官网登录app告缺陷。”

质量的主张,一些
Very tricky. I can explain what do I do, but if they do not understand, then it is better to give a technical answer for them to understand. If they are inquisitive, they will ask further.\u00a0 So my answer will be:<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

\"As a tester, I ensure the quality of software or applications by designing and executing test cases to identify and report defects.\"<\/p>","quoteUsername":"anuvip","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

K
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通常的上下文中我的答案是我的工作是什么,像„我确保所有付款按时处理”。
每当我的答案包括任何词汇像„软件”、“系统”或„”通常以一个跟进的问题像„我的电脑做一些奇怪的188金宝搏官网登录app东西,我怎么修复它”

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Usually my answer is in the context of what my job is for, like \u201eI make sure all the payments get processed on time\u201d.\u00a0
Whenever my\u00a0answer included\u00a0any buzzword like\u00a0\u201esoftware\u201d, \u201dsystems\u201d or \u201eIT\u201d it usually ended with a follow up question like \u201emy computer does some weird stuff, how do I fix it\u201d

\u00a0<\/p>","quoteUsername":"kbdering","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">
年代
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亚历克斯,真的是你做的吗?就这些吗?如果这真的是你所做的一切,那么我想告诉你有更多的,你可以做的事情。

与我目前的客户,我为测试人员通过设计工具,允许他们指定的端到端用户旅行在概念层面上,而不是点击,点击。他们可以指定这个电子表格形式直接或通过使用产品,让我的阅读应用程序日志工具识别概念的过程。我的工具,结合每个用户的旅程,执行一个分析产品的行为。我收集不同类型的数据:屏幕刮伤的文本,本地存储之前和之后的内容,自然截图和“完整”的截图,和一个活动日志。收集后阶段的自动化运行,一套单独的工具帮助测试人员分析并报告结果。这就是我所说的自动标记(更改或可疑行为的识别)和检查(确定明确的失败)。

没有所谓的自动化测试,但自动测定,标记,和检查允许测试人员测试产品更快更可靠。

这些工具被设计用来执行相同的动作在不同的平台上,使用鼠标或键盘,屏幕与不同的几何图形,在不同的lagnuages,并可能与随机元素。

我与测试人员,他不是一个程序员,识别和修改工具来帮助他关注的特殊挑战,风险,并从版本新特性。我们的工作伙伴。

如果我的工作仅仅是为了编写脚本产生“相同”的行为,我将很快说服我的老板有任何人做这种工作。这不是一个值得做的工作。我怀疑你是过于简化,让它更容易解释事物,但小心,因为这可能导致人们认为测试仅仅是点击屏幕,仅此而已。

Alex, is that really what you do? That\u2019s it? If that really is all you do, then I\u2019d like to tell you there is much more that you could be doing.<\/p>

With my current client, I serve testers by designing tools that allow them to specify end-to-end user journeys on a conceptual level rather than click by click. They can specify this in spreadsheet form or by using the product directly and letting my tools read the app log to identify the conceptual process.\u00a0My tools, in conjunction with each user journey, perform\u00a0an assay of the product behavior. I collect different kinds of data: screen scrapes of all text, contents of local storage before and after, natural screenshots and \u201cfull\u201d screenshots, and an activity log. After the collection phase of the automation runs, a separate set of tools helps the tester analyze and report the results.This is what I call\u00a0automated flagging (identification of changes or suspicious behavior) and checking (identification of definite failures).<\/p>

There is no such thing as automated testing, but the automated assay, flagging, and checking allows the tester to test the product more quickly and reliably.<\/p>

These tools are designed to perform the same KINDS of actions on different platforms, using mouse or keyboard, with different screen geometries, in different lagnuages, and potentially with randomized elements.<\/p>

I work with the tester, who is not a coder, to identify and modify tools to help him focus on the special challenges, risks, and new features from release to release. We work as partners.<\/p>

If my job were to merely to write scripts to produce the \u201csame\u201d behavior, I would quickly talk my employer out of having ANYONE do such a job. That would not be a job worth doing. I suspect you are oversimplifying to make it easier to explain things-- but watch out, because what that can lead to is people thinking that testing is ONLY clicking on the screen and nothing more.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"satisfice","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

一个
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谢谢你抚养。是的我的以上言论我们如果不清楚。

坚持我的东西是一个评论”想象你在电梯里的首席执行官,他们向你问你做什么,你有1句话向他们解释…你会怎么说”。从这个角度看我的评论。

当别人提到过,如果有兴趣这条线后,经常会有问题导致进一步更详细的对话框之后…这是否也想要或需要的是上下文相关的。

Thanks for raising that. Yes my above comments were over-simplifying if that wasn\u2019t clear to all.\u00a0<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

Something which has stuck with me was a comment \u201cimagine you\u2019re in an elevator with your CEO, they turn to you & ask what you do and you have 1 sentence to explain to them\u2026\u00a0what would you say\u201d. My comments above were from this perspective.\u00a0<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

As others have mentioned, if there\u2019s interest after this line, there will often be questions leading to further more detailed dialog afterwards\u2026\u00a0whether this is wanted or needed is context dependent also though.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"alex_read","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

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