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What are some of the steps that helped you implement security testing effectively into your testing?<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/how-do-you-integrate-security-testing-in-your-test-lifecycle-especially-test-automation-227?postid=514#post514","creationDate":"2023-06-18T11:50:29+0000","relativeCreationDate":"3 hours ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":0,"numberOfLikes":0,"relevantPost":{"id":514,"author":{"id":253,"url":"\/members\/gunesh-253","name":"gunesh","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/80cb89d9-84f4-42b6-87cd-cb17f012bdd9.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"
What are some of the steps that helped you implement security testing effectively into your testing?<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/how-do-you-integrate-security-testing-in-your-test-lifecycle-especially-test-automation-227?postid=514#post514","creationDate":"2023-06-18T11:50:29+0000","relativeCreationDate":"3 hours ago"},"numberOfViews":1,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"514"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
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I would like to hear from the industry experts based on their experience into\u00a0software test automation, what are the key responsibilities of a Test Architect in automation projects?<\/p>
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Looking forward to an interesting conversation and inputs\u00a0\ud83d\ude00<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=488#post488","creationDate":"2023-05-30T07:00:58+0000","relativeCreationDate":"19 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":57,"id":220,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220","title":"Automation Test Architect responsibilities","lastPost":{"id":513,"author":{"id":253,"url":"\/members\/gunesh-253","name":"gunesh","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/80cb89d9-84f4-42b6-87cd-cb17f012bdd9.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"
Amazing points one point if I may add, simplify TA solution to drive adoption within other teams across company including but not limited to Devs, SREs, Customer Success.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=513#post513","creationDate":"2023-06-18T11:45:48+0000","relativeCreationDate":"3 hours ago"},"lastReply":{"id":513,"author":{"id":253,"url":"\/members\/gunesh-253","name":"gunesh","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/80cb89d9-84f4-42b6-87cd-cb17f012bdd9.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Amazing points one point if I may add, simplify TA solution to drive adoption within other teams across company including but not limited to Devs, SREs, Customer Success.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=513#post513","creationDate":"2023-06-18T11:45:48+0000","relativeCreationDate":"3 hours ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":2,"numberOfLikes":2,"relevantPost":{"id":488,"author":{"id":140,"url":"\/members\/abhijeet-yadav-140","name":"Abhijeet Yadav","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":" Hi There,<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> I would like to hear from the industry experts based on their experience into\u00a0software test automation, what are the key responsibilities of a Test Architect in automation projects?<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Looking forward to an interesting conversation and inputs\u00a0\ud83d\ude00<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=488#post488","creationDate":"2023-05-30T07:00:58+0000","relativeCreationDate":"19 days ago"},"numberOfViews":42,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"513"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
There are many ways you can contribute to open source projects as a tester.<\/p>\t
I would definitely say that most open source tool repositories\u00a0not<\/u>\u00a0dev-only repositories.<\/p>\t As the developer of RestAssured.Net<\/a> I\u2019d love to tell you more about how to contribute to it.<\/p>\t<\/div><\/content-quote> I\u2019m all ears There are many ways you can contribute to open source projects as a tester.<\/p>\t I would definitely say that most open source tool repositories\u00a0not<\/u>\u00a0dev-only repositories.<\/p>\t \u00a0<\/p> I have heard this many times: \u201cTesters must be able to code\u201d. Do you agree? In my latest video, I am sharing my point of view on this question. Do you agree? What is your experience on this topic? Looking forward to reading from you. Hi Gunesh,<\/p>\t thanks for your comment and the link to the article. I totally agree with you. Reading code is an important skill and is something testers should not be afraid of.<\/p>\t It will help to understand more about the implementation, the technology used and it trains the tester to see patterns in the code and to raise questions when needed.<\/p>\t \u00a0<\/p>\t<\/div><\/content-quote> I was going to write a long answer here, but it basically boils down to this. I\u2019d like to see testers comfortable enough around code to have meaningful conversations with those who wr(i\/o)te it. Everything else is a bonus.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=509#post509","creationDate":"2023-06-16T12:23:11+0000","relativeCreationDate":"2 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":509,"author":{"id":66,"url":"\/members\/basdijkstra-66","name":"basdijkstra","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/f58d4c39-8c58-4e81-ad27-8129e5252235.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Hi Gunesh,<\/p>\t thanks for your comment and the link to the article. I totally agree with you. Reading code is an important skill and is something testers should not be afraid of.<\/p>\t It will help to understand more about the implementation, the technology used and it trains the tester to see patterns in the code and to raise questions when needed.<\/p>\t \u00a0<\/p>\t<\/div><\/content-quote> I was going to write a long answer here, but it basically boils down to this. I\u2019d like to see testers comfortable enough around code to have meaningful conversations with those who wr(i\/o)te it. Everything else is a bonus.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=509#post509","creationDate":"2023-06-16T12:23:11+0000","relativeCreationDate":"2 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":6,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":487,"author":{"id":56,"url":"\/members\/danielknott-56","name":"danielknott","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/31b1fa0f-35f2-409a-95d4-bdf6b72e333e.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Hi community,<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> I have heard this many times: \u201cTesters must be able to code\u201d. Do you agree? In my latest video, I am sharing my point of view on this question. Do you agree? What is your experience on this topic? Looking forward to reading from you. \ud83d\udd17 Playlist Link: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Qu4R_PCUffk&list=PLNQq42pqd-rxC6Yw97QgqMCTQojlxOzze<\/p> \ud83d\ude80 Greetings! I am thrilled to share an invaluable resource that will empower you to take your automation expertise to the next level. Introducing the \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist, a game-changing collection of links designed to enhance your API testing, web automation, performance testing, and even security testing skills.<\/p> \ud83d\udcfa This playlist is a treasure trove of hands-on exercises and tutorials, meticulously curated to help you gain practical experience and solidify your understanding of automation concepts. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just beginning your journey in the automation world, this playlist has something for everyone.<\/p> \ud83d\udd27 The \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist is jam-packed with essential links covering various areas of automation:<\/p> 1\ufe0f\u20e3 API Testing: Dive into the world of API testing and learn how to interact with APIs, send requests, handle responses, and perform comprehensive tests. Gain insights into industry best practices and learn how to build robust and reliable API test suites.<\/p> 2\ufe0f\u20e3 Web Automation: Unleash the power of web automation! From browser automation frameworks to web scraping techniques, this playlist provides you with the resources you need to automate repetitive web tasks, extract data, and streamline your workflows.<\/p> 3\ufe0f\u20e3 Performance Testing: Discover the art of performance testing and learn how to evaluate the speed, scalability, and stability of your applications. With the tools and techniques shared in this playlist, you'll be equipped to identify performance bottlenecks and optimize your software for peak performance.<\/p> 4\ufe0f\u20e3 Security Testing: Security is paramount in today's digital landscape. This playlist even includes links to resources on security testing, enabling you to understand common vulnerabilities, perform penetration testing, and ensure your applications are secure from potential threats.<\/p> \ud83d\udca1 No matter your role or background, the \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist offers an exceptional opportunity to expand your skill set and stay ahead in the ever-evolving tech industry.<\/p> \ud83d\udcda So, why wait? Click the link below to access the \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist and unlock a world of endless possibilities for honing your automation skills:<\/p> \ud83d\udd17 https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Qu4R_PCUffk&list=PLNQq42pqd-rxC6Yw97QgqMCTQojlxOzze<\/p> \ud83d\ude80 Let's embrace automation and propel ourselves to new heights of success! Happy learning and automating! \ud83d\udcaa\ud83d\udcbb #AutomationSkills #APItesting #WebAutomation #PerformanceTesting #SecurityTesting<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/elevate-your-automation-skills-with-the-ultimate-resource-221?postid=493#post493","creationDate":"2023-06-06T06:53:44+0000","relativeCreationDate":"12 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":58,"id":221,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/elevate-your-automation-skills-with-the-ultimate-resource-221","title":"\ud83c\udf10 Elevate Your Automation Skills with the Ultimate Resource! \ud83c\udf10","lastPost":{"id":499,"author":{"id":12,"url":"\/members\/daria-12","name":"Daria","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e51dad8e-9cbb-4bc1-badc-23860195a152.png","userTitle":"Head of Community","rank":{"isBold":true,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Community Manager","color":"#096FED"},"userLevel":3},"content":" Great recap, Ioan! Thank you for sharing.\u00a0Setting it as a featured post for the others to grow and learn!<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/elevate-your-automation-skills-with-the-ultimate-resource-221?postid=499#post499","creationDate":"2023-06-14T12:47:39+0000","relativeCreationDate":"4 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":499,"author":{"id":12,"url":"\/members\/daria-12","name":"Daria","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e51dad8e-9cbb-4bc1-badc-23860195a152.png","userTitle":"Head of Community","rank":{"isBold":true,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Community Manager","color":"#096FED"},"userLevel":3},"content":" Great recap, Ioan! Thank you for sharing.\u00a0Setting it as a featured post for the others to grow and learn!<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/elevate-your-automation-skills-with-the-ultimate-resource-221?postid=499#post499","creationDate":"2023-06-14T12:47:39+0000","relativeCreationDate":"4 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":1,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":493,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" \ud83c\udf10 Elevate Your Automation Skills with the Ultimate Resource! \ud83c\udf10<\/p> \ud83d\udd17 Playlist Link: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Qu4R_PCUffk&list=PLNQq42pqd-rxC6Yw97QgqMCTQojlxOzze<\/p> \ud83d\ude80 Greetings! I am thrilled to share an invaluable resource that will empower you to take your automation expertise to the next level. Introducing the \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist, a game-changing collection of links designed to enhance your API testing, web automation, performance testing, and even security testing skills.<\/p> \ud83d\udcfa This playlist is a treasure trove of hands-on exercises and tutorials, meticulously curated to help you gain practical experience and solidify your understanding of automation concepts. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just beginning your journey in the automation world, this playlist has something for everyone.<\/p> \ud83d\udd27 The \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist is jam-packed with essential links covering various areas of automation:<\/p> 1\ufe0f\u20e3 API Testing: Dive into the world of API testing and learn how to interact with APIs, send requests, handle responses, and perform comprehensive tests. Gain insights into industry best practices and learn how to build robust and reliable API test suites.<\/p> 2\ufe0f\u20e3 Web Automation: Unleash the power of web automation! From browser automation frameworks to web scraping techniques, this playlist provides you with the resources you need to automate repetitive web tasks, extract data, and streamline your workflows.<\/p> 3\ufe0f\u20e3 Performance Testing: Discover the art of performance testing and learn how to evaluate the speed, scalability, and stability of your applications. With the tools and techniques shared in this playlist, you'll be equipped to identify performance bottlenecks and optimize your software for peak performance.<\/p> 4\ufe0f\u20e3 Security Testing: Security is paramount in today's digital landscape. This playlist even includes links to resources on security testing, enabling you to understand common vulnerabilities, perform penetration testing, and ensure your applications are secure from potential threats.<\/p> \ud83d\udca1 No matter your role or background, the \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist offers an exceptional opportunity to expand your skill set and stay ahead in the ever-evolving tech industry.<\/p> \ud83d\udcda So, why wait? Click the link below to access the \"Sites to Practice Automation\" playlist and unlock a world of endless possibilities for honing your automation skills:<\/p> \ud83d\udd17 https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Qu4R_PCUffk&list=PLNQq42pqd-rxC6Yw97QgqMCTQojlxOzze<\/p> \ud83d\ude80 Let's embrace automation and propel ourselves to new heights of success! Happy learning and automating! \ud83d\udcaa\ud83d\udcbb #AutomationSkills #APItesting #WebAutomation #PerformanceTesting #SecurityTesting<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/elevate-your-automation-skills-with-the-ultimate-resource-221?postid=493#post493","creationDate":"2023-06-06T06:53:44+0000","relativeCreationDate":"12 days ago"},"numberOfViews":76,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"499"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
we should ask the dev team to remove it as it is designed to identify it is are used as\u00a0security checks<\/em>\u00a0to<\/p> deter spammers and hackers from using forms on web pages.<\/p> But there are certain chrome windgets like buster which can resolve the captcha. kindly let me know<\/p> your thoughts.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/handling-captcha-in-test-automation-217?postid=473#post473","creationDate":"2023-05-24T08:51:52+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":51,"id":217,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isAnswered","label":"beantwoord"}],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/handling-captcha-in-test-automation-217","title":"Handling Captcha In test Automation","lastPost":{"id":486,"author":{"id":47,"url":"\/members\/shabareesh-padma-47","name":"Shabareesh Padma","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/8c90864b-4573-45e4-b748-0ccf88a1814f.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":" Bypassing the Captcha is the best way<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/handling-captcha-in-test-automation-217?postid=486#post486","creationDate":"2023-05-29T05:31:45+0000","relativeCreationDate":"20 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":486,"author":{"id":47,"url":"\/members\/shabareesh-padma-47","name":"Shabareesh Padma","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/8c90864b-4573-45e4-b748-0ccf88a1814f.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":" Bypassing the Captcha is the best way<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/handling-captcha-in-test-automation-217?postid=486#post486","creationDate":"2023-05-29T05:31:45+0000","relativeCreationDate":"20 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":2,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":473,"author":{"id":74,"url":"\/members\/harish-n-74","name":"Harish N","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Hi Community, I think the topic has been in debate for long. I think captcha cannot be automated and\u00a0<\/p> we should ask the dev team to remove it as it is designed to identify it is are used as\u00a0security checks<\/em>\u00a0to<\/p> deter spammers and hackers from using forms on web pages.<\/p> But there are certain chrome windgets like buster which can resolve the captcha. kindly let me know<\/p> your thoughts.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/handling-captcha-in-test-automation-217?postid=473#post473","creationDate":"2023-05-24T08:51:52+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"numberOfViews":77,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"486"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
To ensure something, you must control it. This is a necessary, but not sufficient condition. So, even if you control it, you may not be able to to ensure it. As a tester, I have absolutely no control over quality, therefore I cannot ensure quality<\/em>. The people who could ensure quality are managers and developers. Even they can\u2019t ensure it, but for different and more complicated reasons than those that apply to testers.<\/p> (I also don\u2019t \u201cbreak the software\u201d because it is already broken when I find it.)<\/p> So, what do I do as a tester?<\/p> I seek the truth, and I report the truth, <\/strong>about the status of the product at any given time. I do this so that the team I work for can make informed decisions about quality.<\/p> If I break anything, it is the veil of illusion.<\/strong> I shatter the dreams of the naive. But not the product. The product is the product, before and after I test it.<\/p> A good tester has no faith in the product.<\/strong> We have faith in trouble. I mean faith in the full literal sense of believing in something without any evidence. In order for testers to function at full velocity and effectiveness, we must believe that there is a problem around every corner (even though there probably isn\u2019t).<\/p> Whenever I use the term QA I am probably referring to quality analysis.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Because letting people say that you \u201cassure quality\u201d or \u201censure quality\u201d puts you in the position of scapegoat. \u201cWhy did you let that product ship with a bug, tester? What\u2019s wrong with you?\u201d Releasing a product is a business decision, not a testing decision. It must be made by people who are aware of and accountable for all that responsibility.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/please-stop-saying-testers-ensure-quality-218?postid=484#post484","creationDate":"2023-05-28T01:19:52+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":55,"id":218,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/please-stop-saying-testers-ensure-quality-218","title":"Please stop saying \"testers ensure quality\"","lastPost":{"id":484,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" To ensure something, you must control it. This is a necessary, but not sufficient condition. So, even if you control it, you may not be able to to ensure it. As a tester, I have absolutely no control over quality, therefore I cannot ensure quality<\/em>. The people who could ensure quality are managers and developers. Even they can\u2019t ensure it, but for different and more complicated reasons than those that apply to testers.<\/p> (I also don\u2019t \u201cbreak the software\u201d because it is already broken when I find it.)<\/p> So, what do I do as a tester?<\/p> I seek the truth, and I report the truth, <\/strong>about the status of the product at any given time. I do this so that the team I work for can make informed decisions about quality.<\/p> If I break anything, it is the veil of illusion.<\/strong> I shatter the dreams of the naive. But not the product. The product is the product, before and after I test it.<\/p> A good tester has no faith in the product.<\/strong> We have faith in trouble. I mean faith in the full literal sense of believing in something without any evidence. In order for testers to function at full velocity and effectiveness, we must believe that there is a problem around every corner (even though there probably isn\u2019t).<\/p> Whenever I use the term QA I am probably referring to quality analysis.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Because letting people say that you \u201cassure quality\u201d or \u201censure quality\u201d puts you in the position of scapegoat. \u201cWhy did you let that product ship with a bug, tester? What\u2019s wrong with you?\u201d Releasing a product is a business decision, not a testing decision. It must be made by people who are aware of and accountable for all that responsibility.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/please-stop-saying-testers-ensure-quality-218?postid=484#post484","creationDate":"2023-05-28T01:19:52+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":0,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":484,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" To ensure something, you must control it. This is a necessary, but not sufficient condition. So, even if you control it, you may not be able to to ensure it. As a tester, I have absolutely no control over quality, therefore I cannot ensure quality<\/em>. The people who could ensure quality are managers and developers. Even they can\u2019t ensure it, but for different and more complicated reasons than those that apply to testers.<\/p> (I also don\u2019t \u201cbreak the software\u201d because it is already broken when I find it.)<\/p> So, what do I do as a tester?<\/p> I seek the truth, and I report the truth, <\/strong>about the status of the product at any given time. I do this so that the team I work for can make informed decisions about quality.<\/p> If I break anything, it is the veil of illusion.<\/strong> I shatter the dreams of the naive. But not the product. The product is the product, before and after I test it.<\/p> A good tester has no faith in the product.<\/strong> We have faith in trouble. I mean faith in the full literal sense of believing in something without any evidence. In order for testers to function at full velocity and effectiveness, we must believe that there is a problem around every corner (even though there probably isn\u2019t).<\/p> Whenever I use the term QA I am probably referring to quality analysis.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Because letting people say that you \u201cassure quality\u201d or \u201censure quality\u201d puts you in the position of scapegoat. \u201cWhy did you let that product ship with a bug, tester? What\u2019s wrong with you?\u201d Releasing a product is a business decision, not a testing decision. It must be made by people who are aware of and accountable for all that responsibility.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/please-stop-saying-testers-ensure-quality-218?postid=484#post484","creationDate":"2023-05-28T01:19:52+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfViews":31,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"484"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
\u00a0<\/p> Share your experience. What do you use.<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/do-you-really-do-agile-176?postid=321#post321","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:46:21+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":47,"id":176,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":47,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/development-methodologies-47","title":"Development Methodologies","description":"Let's discuss Development Methodologies like DevOps, agile, BDD, FDD etc. "},"url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/do-you-really-do-agile-176","title":"Do you really do Agile?","lastPost":{"id":483,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" I am not an Agilist. Instead I try to be agile.<\/p> Ever since a founding Agilist told me that Agile is not necessarily agile, I lost interest in Agile. Agile is a somewhat authoritarian community, it seems to me.<\/p> Having said that, everyone works in a place that claims to be Agile, these days. That seems to mean they use either the tropes of Scrum or the tropes of KanBan when they speak about their projects.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/do-you-really-do-agile-176?postid=483#post483","creationDate":"2023-05-28T01:02:15+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":483,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" I am not an Agilist. Instead I try to be agile.<\/p> Ever since a founding Agilist told me that Agile is not necessarily agile, I lost interest in Agile. Agile is a somewhat authoritarian community, it seems to me.<\/p> Having said that, everyone works in a place that claims to be Agile, these days. That seems to mean they use either the tropes of Scrum or the tropes of KanBan when they speak about their projects.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/do-you-really-do-agile-176?postid=483#post483","creationDate":"2023-05-28T01:02:15+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":3,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":321,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" Are you really using Agile in your Projects? A lot of projects\/teams claim to work in an Agile ways. They use methodologies and ceremonies that are tipically associated with Agile and with Scrum. However in reality it is actually a Sprint based Waterfall.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Share your experience. What do you use.<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/do-you-really-do-agile-176?postid=321#post321","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:46:21+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":48,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"483"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
25 years ago I was convinced by Jerry Weinberg to call it a craft. That has felt consistently comfortable over the years.<\/p> There is considerable science behind the craft of testing, although very VERY few testers know much about that science.<\/p> If you\u2019d\u00a0like to learn more about the science behind testing, you will have to delve into these fields:<\/p> Consider also that it is more interesting to say \u201ctesting IS science\u201d than to say that testing is A science. What scientists do-- what it literally means to think like a scientist-- is exactly what good testers must do.<\/p> The fact that testing IS science, explains why engineers are so uncomfortable with it. Engineers want to get things done. Engineering is finite. But science goes on and on. Scientists just keep asking questions and pursuing experiments.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=482#post482","creationDate":"2023-05-28T00:56:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":482,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" 25 years ago I was convinced by Jerry Weinberg to call it a craft. That has felt consistently comfortable over the years.<\/p> There is considerable science behind the craft of testing, although very VERY few testers know much about that science.<\/p> If you\u2019d\u00a0like to learn more about the science behind testing, you will have to delve into these fields:<\/p> Consider also that it is more interesting to say \u201ctesting IS science\u201d than to say that testing is A science. What scientists do-- what it literally means to think like a scientist-- is exactly what good testers must do.<\/p> The fact that testing IS science, explains why engineers are so uncomfortable with it. Engineers want to get things done. Engineering is finite. But science goes on and on. Scientists just keep asking questions and pursuing experiments.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=482#post482","creationDate":"2023-05-28T00:56:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":3,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":445,"author":{"id":48,"url":"\/members\/anuvip-48","name":"anuvip","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e61b7860-e55b-422b-b771-819c98701fcc.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":3},"content":" Is testing an Art or a Science that everyone can learn? Is this inbuilt that needs to be refined, or it has to be acquired manually?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=445#post445","creationDate":"2023-05-16T13:19:18+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":29,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"482"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
Test data generation: ChatGPT can be used to generate synthetic test data based on specific scenarios or requirements. For instance, it can generate test data that simulates specific user interactions or system responses to validate the functionality of a software application.<\/p>\t<\/li>\t Test case generation: ChatGPT can be used to generate test cases based on specific requirements or test scenarios. However, the effectiveness of this approach will depend on the quality of the input data provided to the model and the level of detail required for the test cases.<\/p>\t<\/li>\t Test script automation: ChatGPT can be used to automate test scripts for repetitive tasks, such as test data creation or validation. This can help speed up the testing process and improve the efficiency of the testing team.<\/p>\t<\/li><\/ol> Having listed the above benefits, It is important to note that while ChatGPT can help in testing activities, it is not a replacement for human testers. People will start thinking that this can replace them and take their jobs. However, It is still necessary to have human testers who can validate the results generated by the model and provide context and domain knowledge that may not be captured by the model.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> What are your thoughts?<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/as-testers-should-we-or-shouldn-t-we-talk-about-ai-tools-like-chatgpt-202?postid=405#post405","creationDate":"2023-05-10T08:09:43+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":44,"id":202,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/as-testers-should-we-or-shouldn-t-we-talk-about-ai-tools-like-chatgpt-202","title":"As testers, should we or shouldn't we talk about AI tools like chatGPT?","lastPost":{"id":481,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" I\u2019m seeing a lot of shallow and reckless talk about what ChatGPT can do for testers.<\/p> We do need to investigate what can be done with AI-based tools. But just telling people \u201cYOU CAN DO THIS! AND THIIIISSS!\u201d does not serve testers or the industry. It is irresponsible.<\/p> I have seen several demonstrations of people generating test cases and scripts using ChatGPT and what I\u2019ve seen is a hot mess without much critical thinking. Yes, ChatGPT can do interesting things, but it is not able to do them\u00a0consistently and reliably.<\/p> A student recently responded to an exercise I gave him by asking ChatGPT to write a program to tell if a\u00a0string of dates (provided as output of a program that purported to produce random dates) were or were not random. The program cheerfully and confidently supplied by ChatGPT was profoundly unsuited to the task, but the tester did not have the mathematical or programming skills necessary to realize that. He just passed the program on to me with the assertion that it solved the problem.<\/p> We should not be encouraging people to behave that way.<\/em><\/p> In the absence of consistency and reliability, I would say anyone who relies on ChatGPT is putting their job at risk. I would encourage employers to make it a firing offense to rely on it-- just as it would be if you discovered that developers were outsourcing their work to other programmers and passing it off as their own.<\/p> I do think AI can have a role.<\/strong> Specifically, ChatGPT can be useful as a sort of instant tutorial generator if you are trying to get started using a particular tool or technology. I also think it can be used to aid in brainstorming or training testers.<\/p> For instance, a good training exercise might be to ask ChatGPT \u201cwhat are three test cases for a printer?\u201d and then ask a tester to review and fix that answer (because ChatGPT\u2019s answer will be far below a professional standard in important ways).<\/p> Or you can describe a feature and ask ChatGPT for test ideas. It will give you the obvious ones-- probably-- and maybe a couple of strange ones. But then you need to delete some and add others.<\/p> Here\u2019s a professional rule I have when I use ChatGPT: I never\u00a0ask it for answers that I do not have the personal knowledge and skill to evaluate on the spot, because more than half the time that I DO have such knowledge and skill, I see important errors in ChatGPT output.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/as-testers-should-we-or-shouldn-t-we-talk-about-ai-tools-like-chatgpt-202?postid=481#post481","creationDate":"2023-05-28T00:42:07+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":481,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" I\u2019m seeing a lot of shallow and reckless talk about what ChatGPT can do for testers.<\/p> We do need to investigate what can be done with AI-based tools. But just telling people \u201cYOU CAN DO THIS! AND THIIIISSS!\u201d does not serve testers or the industry. It is irresponsible.<\/p> I have seen several demonstrations of people generating test cases and scripts using ChatGPT and what I\u2019ve seen is a hot mess without much critical thinking. Yes, ChatGPT can do interesting things, but it is not able to do them\u00a0consistently and reliably.<\/p> A student recently responded to an exercise I gave him by asking ChatGPT to write a program to tell if a\u00a0string of dates (provided as output of a program that purported to produce random dates) were or were not random. The program cheerfully and confidently supplied by ChatGPT was profoundly unsuited to the task, but the tester did not have the mathematical or programming skills necessary to realize that. He just passed the program on to me with the assertion that it solved the problem.<\/p> We should not be encouraging people to behave that way.<\/em><\/p> In the absence of consistency and reliability, I would say anyone who relies on ChatGPT is putting their job at risk. I would encourage employers to make it a firing offense to rely on it-- just as it would be if you discovered that developers were outsourcing their work to other programmers and passing it off as their own.<\/p> I do think AI can have a role.<\/strong> Specifically, ChatGPT can be useful as a sort of instant tutorial generator if you are trying to get started using a particular tool or technology. I also think it can be used to aid in brainstorming or training testers.<\/p> For instance, a good training exercise might be to ask ChatGPT \u201cwhat are three test cases for a printer?\u201d and then ask a tester to review and fix that answer (because ChatGPT\u2019s answer will be far below a professional standard in important ways).<\/p> Or you can describe a feature and ask ChatGPT for test ideas. It will give you the obvious ones-- probably-- and maybe a couple of strange ones. But then you need to delete some and add others.<\/p> Here\u2019s a professional rule I have when I use ChatGPT: I never\u00a0ask it for answers that I do not have the personal knowledge and skill to evaluate on the spot, because more than half the time that I DO have such knowledge and skill, I see important errors in ChatGPT output.<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/as-testers-should-we-or-shouldn-t-we-talk-about-ai-tools-like-chatgpt-202?postid=481#post481","creationDate":"2023-05-28T00:42:07+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":5,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":405,"author":{"id":48,"url":"\/members\/anuvip-48","name":"anuvip","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e61b7860-e55b-422b-b771-819c98701fcc.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":3},"content":" The talk of the town, ChatGPT, can provide some benefits for testing activities, but its effectiveness in speeding up the testing process or generating test cases will depend on the specific use case and the quality of the input data provided to it. While people do not want to miss the train, but they have to very clear where and how they should use AI. In my\u00a0opinion,\u00a0ChatGPT can help in testing in following ways:<\/p> Test data generation: ChatGPT can be used to generate synthetic test data based on specific scenarios or requirements. For instance, it can generate test data that simulates specific user interactions or system responses to validate the functionality of a software application.<\/p>\t<\/li>\t Test case generation: ChatGPT can be used to generate test cases based on specific requirements or test scenarios. However, the effectiveness of this approach will depend on the quality of the input data provided to the model and the level of detail required for the test cases.<\/p>\t<\/li>\t Test script automation: ChatGPT can be used to automate test scripts for repetitive tasks, such as test data creation or validation. This can help speed up the testing process and improve the efficiency of the testing team.<\/p>\t<\/li><\/ol> Having listed the above benefits, It is important to note that while ChatGPT can help in testing activities, it is not a replacement for human testers. People will start thinking that this can replace them and take their jobs. However, It is still necessary to have human testers who can validate the results generated by the model and provide context and domain knowledge that may not be captured by the model.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> What are your thoughts?<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/as-testers-should-we-or-shouldn-t-we-talk-about-ai-tools-like-chatgpt-202?postid=405#post405","creationDate":"2023-05-10T08:09:43+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":100,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"481"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
Vinaya G N<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/how-to-integrate-existing-selenium-scripts-into-tosca-216?postid=468#post468","creationDate":"2023-05-24T01:11:31+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":50,"id":216,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/how-to-integrate-existing-selenium-scripts-into-tosca-216","title":"How to integrate existing Selenium scripts into Tosca?","lastPost":{"id":477,"author":{"id":111,"url":"\/members\/qafanatic-111","name":"qafanatic","avatar":"","userTitle":"Employee","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Employee","color":"#096fed"},"userLevel":0},"content":" Hi Vinaya - are you running Tosca v16? If so, check this guide out (linked below). This explains how to connect to Selenium in-depth. Hope this helps. If not, pose a few more questions and we can deep dive further.\u00a0<\/p> Has anyone integrated ai with testing as for testing the video we would need to use python with deep<\/p> learning algorithm.<\/p> Thanks,<\/p> Harish n<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/integarting-ai-with-testing-160?postid=266#post266","creationDate":"2023-04-14T13:59:46+0000","relativeCreationDate":"2 months ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":41,"id":160,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/integarting-ai-with-testing-160","title":"Integarting AI with testing","lastPost":{"id":475,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" I can\u2019t give too many details away due to NDAs but some personal thoughts where ML can help now posted at\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/integarting-ai-with-testing-160?postid=475#post475","creationDate":"2023-05-24T13:01:30+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":475,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" I can\u2019t give too many details away due to NDAs but some personal thoughts where ML can help now posted at\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/integarting-ai-with-testing-160?postid=475#post475","creationDate":"2023-05-24T13:01:30+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":5,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":266,"author":{"id":74,"url":"\/members\/harish-n-74","name":"Harish N","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Hi All,<\/p> Has anyone integrated ai with testing as for testing the video we would need to use python with deep<\/p> learning algorithm.<\/p> Thanks,<\/p> Harish n<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/integarting-ai-with-testing-160?postid=266#post266","creationDate":"2023-04-14T13:59:46+0000","relativeCreationDate":"2 months ago"},"numberOfViews":128,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"475"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
is used to scan the code and identify the\u00a0vulnerabilities in the code.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=465#post465","creationDate":"2023-05-23T12:52:10+0000","relativeCreationDate":"26 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":48,"id":214,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214","title":"Security testing","lastPost":{"id":471,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" There are another set of tools for the code which can be used by developers and\/or security testers. If you search the web for \u201csecurity scan code\u201d or \u201cstatic code analysis\u201d, you\u2019ll be able to find a few of these which are often run in the IDE<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=471#post471","creationDate":"2023-05-24T07:55:05+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":471,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" There are another set of tools for the code which can be used by developers and\/or security testers. If you search the web for \u201csecurity scan code\u201d or \u201cstatic code analysis\u201d, you\u2019ll be able to find a few of these which are often run in the IDE<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=471#post471","creationDate":"2023-05-24T07:55:05+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":2,"numberOfLikes":2,"relevantPost":{"id":465,"author":{"id":74,"url":"\/members\/harish-n-74","name":"Harish N","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Hi Community,\u00a0I would like to know how the security testing is performed and Is there any tools which<\/p> is used to scan the code and identify the\u00a0vulnerabilities in the code.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=465#post465","creationDate":"2023-05-23T12:52:10+0000","relativeCreationDate":"26 days ago"},"numberOfViews":17,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"471"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
The game is being developed in Unity and I know Unity has tools to script automated tests but I\u2019m more looking for tools which automatically would be able to traverse the game.\u00a0 is there a tool out there which would do this?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=426#post426","creationDate":"2023-05-11T08:26:22+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":45,"id":203,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isAnswered","label":"beantwoord"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203","title":"Games Testing","lastPost":{"id":463,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" This would be fascinating to learn for personal interest too\u2026\u00a0I\u2019ve never done games testing.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> There are so many engines running in parallel - physics, pixel rendering, collision detection, lighting & raytracing\u00a0etc. I would imagine each of those would need thoroughly testing independently first before the whole game.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Then the game itself - 2D chess, 3D FPS, 3D 3rd person RPG, racing, sports. If there was a generalised solution I couldn\u2019t imagine the amount of work that must have gone into that!<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=463#post463","creationDate":"2023-05-23T08:06:30+0000","relativeCreationDate":"26 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":463,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" This would be fascinating to learn for personal interest too\u2026\u00a0I\u2019ve never done games testing.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> There are so many engines running in parallel - physics, pixel rendering, collision detection, lighting & raytracing\u00a0etc. I would imagine each of those would need thoroughly testing independently first before the whole game.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Then the game itself - 2D chess, 3D FPS, 3D 3rd person RPG, racing, sports. If there was a generalised solution I couldn\u2019t imagine the amount of work that must have gone into that!<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=463#post463","creationDate":"2023-05-23T08:06:30+0000","relativeCreationDate":"26 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":4,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":426,"author":{"id":260,"url":"\/members\/footballfan007-260","name":"footballfan007","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":" I\u2019m new to games testing , so I was wondering if there are any tools out there which uses re-enforced learning or ML to navigate through the game ?<\/p> The game is being developed in Unity and I know Unity has tools to script automated tests but I\u2019m more looking for tools which automatically would be able to traverse the game.\u00a0 is there a tool out there which would do this?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=426#post426","creationDate":"2023-05-11T08:26:22+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":107,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"463"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
The list I have so far is: Any other thoughts? What value have you gotten from Tosca that you weren\u2019t expecting?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209?postid=447#post447","creationDate":"2023-05-18T19:27:02+0000","relativeCreationDate":"30 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":46,"id":209,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209","title":"Unanticipated beefits of Tosca?","lastPost":{"id":462,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" I come at this answer from someone who\u2019s evaluated Tosca against other tools but not seen or used it outside of PoCs & demos\u2026 here are a couple from the top of my head if this might be of use<\/p> I come at this answer from someone who\u2019s evaluated Tosca against other tools but not seen or used it outside of PoCs & demos\u2026 here are a couple from the top of my head if this might be of use<\/p> I am a sales guy at Tricentis. I have a prospect asking me \u201cwhat are the unexpected benefits of Tosca?\u201d We have talked about all of the expected benefits (300% Plus ROI. Faster releases. Better quality releases. Increased risk coverage. Overall reduction in cost. etc) but she wants to get a feeling for the unanticipated value that her testers may experience.<\/p> The list I have so far is: Any other thoughts? What value have you gotten from Tosca that you weren\u2019t expecting?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209?postid=447#post447","creationDate":"2023-05-18T19:27:02+0000","relativeCreationDate":"30 days ago"},"numberOfViews":40,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"462"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=325#post325","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:33:45+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":22,"id":179,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179","title":"Assertions","lastPost":{"id":460,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" Always in the test cases or test steps. This places it squarely at the individual project\u2019s requirement responsibility & enables maximum reuse, shared understanding + clarity (ways of working of where to expect the assertions) then ease of maintenance.\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> In the above example, designing a LoginPage POM with methods such as isIncorrectLoginMessageShown(), getTextofIncorrectLoginMessage(), isUserNameEmpty(), isSubmitDisplayed(), then a DashboardPage POM with methods such as isPageDisplayedAndLoaded(), getWelcomeText() etc. will support more projects & give them each the responsibility of deciding what is a pass or failure criteria depending upon their own requirements.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=460#post460","creationDate":"2023-05-22T10:50:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"27 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":460,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" Always in the test cases or test steps. This places it squarely at the individual project\u2019s requirement responsibility & enables maximum reuse, shared understanding + clarity (ways of working of where to expect the assertions) then ease of maintenance.\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> In the above example, designing a LoginPage POM with methods such as isIncorrectLoginMessageShown(), getTextofIncorrectLoginMessage(), isUserNameEmpty(), isSubmitDisplayed(), then a DashboardPage POM with methods such as isPageDisplayedAndLoaded(), getWelcomeText() etc. will support more projects & give them each the responsibility of deciding what is a pass or failure criteria depending upon their own requirements.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=460#post460","creationDate":"2023-05-22T10:50:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"27 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":3,"numberOfLikes":5,"relevantPost":{"id":325,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" \u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=325#post325","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:33:45+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":49,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"460"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
\u00a0<\/p> TDD focuses on writing tests before writing code<\/p> BDD focuses on defining the behavior of the system before writing code.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Which one do you use? Do you use either, or a third one?<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/test-driven-development-tdd-vs-behavior-driven-development-bdd-which-approach-do-you-use-in-your-project-175?postid=320#post320","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:41:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":20,"id":175,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":47,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/development-methodologies-47","title":"Development Methodologies","description":"Let's discuss Development Methodologies like DevOps, agile, BDD, FDD etc. "},"url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/test-driven-development-tdd-vs-behavior-driven-development-bdd-which-approach-do-you-use-in-your-project-175","title":"Test-Driven Development (TDD) vs. Behavior-Driven Development (BDD): Which Approach do you use in your Project?","lastPost":{"id":458,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" Both.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> TDD by a development department producing the software to be put live, BDD for the whole project team (or the 3 amigos: business + developers + testers all together) in order to help understanding of the requirements and testing them .<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/test-driven-development-tdd-vs-behavior-driven-development-bdd-which-approach-do-you-use-in-your-project-175?postid=458#post458","creationDate":"2023-05-22T10:26:36+0000","relativeCreationDate":"27 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":458,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" Both.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> TDD by a development department producing the software to be put live, BDD for the whole project team (or the 3 amigos: business + developers + testers all together) in order to help understanding of the requirements and testing them .<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/test-driven-development-tdd-vs-behavior-driven-development-bdd-which-approach-do-you-use-in-your-project-175?postid=458#post458","creationDate":"2023-05-22T10:26:36+0000","relativeCreationDate":"27 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":3,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":320,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" Test-Driven Development (TDD) and Behavior-Driven Development (BDD) are two popular approaches to software development that prioritize testing and quality assurance.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> TDD focuses on writing tests before writing code<\/p> BDD focuses on defining the behavior of the system before writing code.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Which one do you use? Do you use either, or a third one?<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/test-driven-development-tdd-vs-behavior-driven-development-bdd-which-approach-do-you-use-in-your-project-175?postid=320#post320","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:41:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":45,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"458"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
what do you use? are there any better free\/paid tools for out of band testing?<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/out-of-band-security-testing-210?postid=450#post450","creationDate":"2023-05-19T11:38:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"30 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":52,"id":210,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":38,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38","title":"Testing Strategies & Methodologies","description":"Let's talk about testing your applications (manual, automatic, performance, ....)"},"url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/out-of-band-security-testing-210","title":"Out of band Security Testing","lastPost":{"id":454,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" Have a look at this list as well<\/p> https:\/\/owasp.org\/www-community\/Free_for_Open_Source_Application_Security_Tools<\/a><\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/out-of-band-security-testing-210?postid=454#post454","creationDate":"2023-05-19T12:03:23+0000","relativeCreationDate":"30 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":454,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" Have a look at this list as well<\/p> https:\/\/owasp.org\/www-community\/Free_for_Open_Source_Application_Security_Tools<\/a><\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/out-of-band-security-testing-210?postid=454#post454","creationDate":"2023-05-19T12:03:23+0000","relativeCreationDate":"30 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":1,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":450,"author":{"id":349,"url":"\/members\/nigamelastic-349","name":"nigamelastic","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":" Always interested in finding new ways to test blind injection and out of band responses. Here are some of the free and opensource tools i use apart from the paid burp suite collaborator:<\/p> what do you use? are there any better free\/paid tools for out of band testing?<\/p>","url":"\/testing-strategies-methodologies-38\/out-of-band-security-testing-210?postid=450#post450","creationDate":"2023-05-19T11:38:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"30 days ago"},"numberOfViews":11,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"454"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
Why do I say it is simple?<\/p> Well I mean according to some definitions testers write test cases and since they do it often it should be easy. Also there is a ton of information online on how to write a test case, what should it contain, so again, easy and simple.<\/p> Why do I say it is complex? How do you answer this?\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-do-you-do-181?postid=327#post327","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:38:16+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":24,"id":181,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-do-you-do-181","title":"What do you do?","lastPost":{"id":435,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Alex, is that really what you do? That\u2019s it? If that really is all you do, then I\u2019d like to tell you there is much more that you could be doing.<\/p> With my current client, I serve testers by designing tools that allow them to specify end-to-end user journeys on a conceptual level rather than click by click. They can specify this in spreadsheet form or by using the product directly and letting my tools read the app log to identify the conceptual process.\u00a0My tools, in conjunction with each user journey, perform\u00a0an assay of the product behavior. I collect different kinds of data: screen scrapes of all text, contents of local storage before and after, natural screenshots and \u201cfull\u201d screenshots, and an activity log. After the collection phase of the automation runs, a separate set of tools helps the tester analyze and report the results.This is what I call\u00a0automated flagging (identification of changes or suspicious behavior) and checking (identification of definite failures).<\/p> There is no such thing as automated testing, but the automated assay, flagging, and checking allows the tester to test the product more quickly and reliably.<\/p> These tools are designed to perform the same KINDS of actions on different platforms, using mouse or keyboard, with different screen geometries, in different lagnuages, and potentially with randomized elements.<\/p> I work with the tester, who is not a coder, to identify and modify tools to help him focus on the special challenges, risks, and new features from release to release. We work as partners.<\/p> If my job were to merely to write scripts to produce the \u201csame\u201d behavior, I would quickly talk my employer out of having ANYONE do such a job. That would not be a job worth doing. I suspect you are oversimplifying to make it easier to explain things-- but watch out, because what that can lead to is people thinking that testing is ONLY clicking on the screen and nothing more.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-do-you-do-181?postid=435#post435","creationDate":"2023-05-13T18:59:51+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"lastReply":{"id":435,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":" Alex, is that really what you do? That\u2019s it? If that really is all you do, then I\u2019d like to tell you there is much more that you could be doing.<\/p> With my current client, I serve testers by designing tools that allow them to specify end-to-end user journeys on a conceptual level rather than click by click. They can specify this in spreadsheet form or by using the product directly and letting my tools read the app log to identify the conceptual process.\u00a0My tools, in conjunction with each user journey, perform\u00a0an assay of the product behavior. I collect different kinds of data: screen scrapes of all text, contents of local storage before and after, natural screenshots and \u201cfull\u201d screenshots, and an activity log. After the collection phase of the automation runs, a separate set of tools helps the tester analyze and report the results.This is what I call\u00a0automated flagging (identification of changes or suspicious behavior) and checking (identification of definite failures).<\/p> There is no such thing as automated testing, but the automated assay, flagging, and checking allows the tester to test the product more quickly and reliably.<\/p> These tools are designed to perform the same KINDS of actions on different platforms, using mouse or keyboard, with different screen geometries, in different lagnuages, and potentially with randomized elements.<\/p> I work with the tester, who is not a coder, to identify and modify tools to help him focus on the special challenges, risks, and new features from release to release. We work as partners.<\/p> If my job were to merely to write scripts to produce the \u201csame\u201d behavior, I would quickly talk my employer out of having ANYONE do such a job. That would not be a job worth doing. I suspect you are oversimplifying to make it easier to explain things-- but watch out, because what that can lead to is people thinking that testing is ONLY clicking on the screen and nothing more.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-do-you-do-181?postid=435#post435","creationDate":"2023-05-13T18:59:51+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":6,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":327,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" This is a question that I get asked a lot, especially from people outside of the IT Industry.<\/p> How do you answer this?\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-do-you-do-181?postid=327#post327","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:38:16+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":76,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"435"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
\u00a0<\/p> For me, machine learning & security<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/topics-of-interest-156?postid=256#post256","creationDate":"2023-04-12T11:20:03+0000","relativeCreationDate":"2 months ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":38,"id":156,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/topics-of-interest-156","title":"Topics of interest?","lastPost":{"id":422,"author":{"id":223,"url":"\/members\/kbdering-223","name":"kbdering","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":1},"content":" I love coding and performance and performance tools and Tricentis and performance testing with Tricentis tools<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/topics-of-interest-156?postid=422#post422","creationDate":"2023-05-10T11:58:56+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"lastReply":{"id":422,"author":{"id":223,"url":"\/members\/kbdering-223","name":"kbdering","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":1},"content":" I love coding and performance and performance tools and Tricentis and performance testing with Tricentis tools<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/topics-of-interest-156?postid=422#post422","creationDate":"2023-05-10T11:58:56+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":2,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":256,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":" I\u2019m just interested what topics are of most interest to you\/community members reading this \u2026\u00a0please comment below :c)\u00a0<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> For me, machine learning & security<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/topics-of-interest-156?postid=256#post256","creationDate":"2023-04-12T11:20:03+0000","relativeCreationDate":"2 months ago"},"numberOfViews":39,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"422"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
There are development methodologies left and right!<\/p> Waterfall, Agile, DevOps, and more,<\/p> Each with its own unique score.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Waterfall's like a river, flowing down,<\/p> Each phase completed before the next comes 'round.<\/p> Design, coding, testing, all in a row,<\/p> In the end, a product that's good to go.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Agile's more like a jungle, wild and free,<\/p> With sprints and stand-ups, and lots of team camaraderie.<\/p> Iterations and feedback, they all do their part,<\/p> To create a product that's work of art.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> DevOps is like a machine, moving fast,<\/p> Continuous integration, deployment, and testing that lasts.<\/p> Automation's the key, with pipelines in play,<\/p> To deliver software every single day.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> But which one's the best, you may ask,<\/p> Well, that depends on the testing task.<\/p> Each has its own strengths and flaws,<\/p> So pick the one that suits your cause.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> In the world of testing, there's no one size fits all,<\/p> So experiment and find the right call.<\/p> And when you've found the right way to test,<\/p> Your product will be among the best!<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/development-methodologies-in-testing-178?postid=323#post323","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:03:08+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":48,"id":178,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":47,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/development-methodologies-47","title":"Development Methodologies","description":"Let's discuss Development Methodologies like DevOps, agile, BDD, FDD etc. "},"url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/development-methodologies-in-testing-178","title":"Development Methodologies in 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Manager","rank":{"isBold":true,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Community Manager","color":"#096FED"},"userLevel":5},"content":" Here is what ChatGPT says\u00a0<\/p>\t \u201cShiftSync, a community so bright, \u00a0<\/p>\t AI is something for sure :)<\/p>\t<\/div><\/content-quote> Love it!\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/development-methodologies-in-testing-178?postid=419#post419","creationDate":"2023-05-10T10:54:01+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":8,"numberOfLikes":5,"relevantPost":{"id":323,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" In the world of testing, oh what a sight,<\/p> There are development methodologies left and right!<\/p> Waterfall, Agile, DevOps, and more,<\/p> Each with its own unique score.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Waterfall's like a river, flowing down,<\/p> Each phase completed before the next comes 'round.<\/p> Design, coding, testing, all in a row,<\/p> In the end, a product that's good to go.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> Agile's more like a jungle, wild and free,<\/p> With sprints and stand-ups, and lots of team camaraderie.<\/p> Iterations and feedback, they all do their part,<\/p> To create a product that's work of art.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> DevOps is like a machine, moving fast,<\/p> Continuous integration, deployment, and testing that lasts.<\/p> Automation's the key, with pipelines in play,<\/p> To deliver software every single day.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> But which one's the best, you may ask,<\/p> Well, that depends on the testing task.<\/p> Each has its own strengths and flaws,<\/p> So pick the one that suits your cause.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p> In the world of testing, there's no one size fits all,<\/p> So experiment and find the right call.<\/p> And when you've found the right way to test,<\/p> Your product will be among the best!<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/development-methodologies-in-testing-178?postid=323#post323","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:03:08+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":61,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"419"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared 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If you want to implement an error budget for your project, there are several stakeholders that you may need to consider reaching out to. It begins from the dev teams getting brief introductions up to the business owners with detail conversations.\u00a0<\/p> Development team<\/strong><\/span>: The development team is responsible for implementing the error budget, so it is essential to involve them in the process. They can provide insights into how the error budget will impact their work and suggest improvements to the process.<\/p> Testing team<\/strong><\/span>: The testing team is responsible for ensuring the quality of the software, so they will need to be involved in the development of the error budget. They can provide input on the types of errors that are most critical and suggest ways to improve the testing process to catch these errors.<\/p> Product owners<\/strong><\/span>: Product owners are responsible for defining the requirements and priorities for the software, so it is essential to involve them in the development of the error budget. They can provide input on the types of errors that are most critical to the business and suggest improvements to the product roadmap based on the results of the error budget.<\/p> Project managers<\/strong><\/span>: Project managers are responsible for overseeing the project and ensuring that it is delivered on time and within budget. They can provide insights into how the error budget will impact the project timeline and suggest ways to optimize the process to minimize the impact of errors.<\/p> Operations team<\/span>: The operations team is responsible for maintaining the software once it is deployed, so they will need to be involved in the development of the error budget. They can provide input on the types of errors that are most critical for the production environment and suggest ways to improve the deployment process to minimize the impact of errors.<\/p> By involving these stakeholders in the development of the error budget, you can ensure that all perspectives are considered, and the error budget is tailored to the specific needs of the project.<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/error-budgets-166?postid=412#post412","creationDate":"2023-05-10T08:35:46+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"lastReply":{"id":412,"author":{"id":48,"url":"\/members\/anuvip-48","name":"anuvip","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e61b7860-e55b-422b-b771-819c98701fcc.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":3},"content":" If you want to implement an error budget for your project, there are several stakeholders that you may need to consider reaching out to. It begins from the dev teams getting brief introductions up to the business owners with detail conversations.\u00a0<\/p> Development team<\/strong><\/span>: The development team is responsible for implementing the error budget, so it is essential to involve them in the process. They can provide insights into how the error budget will impact their work and suggest improvements to the process.<\/p> Testing team<\/strong><\/span>: The testing team is responsible for ensuring the quality of the software, so they will need to be involved in the development of the error budget. They can provide input on the types of errors that are most critical and suggest ways to improve the testing process to catch these errors.<\/p> Product owners<\/strong><\/span>: Product owners are responsible for defining the requirements and priorities for the software, so it is essential to involve them in the development of the error budget. They can provide input on the types of errors that are most critical to the business and suggest improvements to the product roadmap based on the results of the error budget.<\/p> Project managers<\/strong><\/span>: Project managers are responsible for overseeing the project and ensuring that it is delivered on time and within budget. They can provide insights into how the error budget will impact the project timeline and suggest ways to optimize the process to minimize the impact of errors.<\/p> Operations team<\/span>: The operations team is responsible for maintaining the software once it is deployed, so they will need to be involved in the development of the error budget. They can provide input on the types of errors that are most critical for the production environment and suggest ways to improve the deployment process to minimize the impact of errors.<\/p> By involving these stakeholders in the development of the error budget, you can ensure that all perspectives are considered, and the error budget is tailored to the specific needs of the project.<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/error-budgets-166?postid=412#post412","creationDate":"2023-05-10T08:35:46+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":2,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":289,"author":{"id":87,"url":"\/members\/veronica-87","name":"Veronica","avatar":"","userTitle":"Employee","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Employee","color":"#096fed"},"userLevel":0},"content":" If I want to implement an error budget for my project, who would the stakeholders be that we would need to consider reaching out to?<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/error-budgets-166?postid=289#post289","creationDate":"2023-04-28T12:23:18+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":76,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"412"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
In Lean Software Development, testing is an integral part of the development process. Testing is not considered a separate phase but is instead integrated throughout the development cycle. This is because Lean Software Development emphasizes the need for continuous feedback and continuous improvement, which can only be achieved through continuous testing.<\/p> Testing in Lean Software Development is carried out in various forms, including unit testing, acceptance testing, and exploratory testing. Test automation is also an essential component of Lean Software Development, as it helps to reduce waste and improve efficiency. Automated testing helps to detect defects early in the development process, which reduces the cost of rework and improves the overall quality of the software.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/what-is-your-opinion-on-lean-software-development-and-where-do-you-see-testing-in-the-process-177?postid=322#post322","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:48:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":21,"id":177,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":47,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/development-methodologies-47","title":"Development Methodologies","description":"Let's discuss Development Methodologies like DevOps, agile, BDD, FDD etc. "},"url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/what-is-your-opinion-on-lean-software-development-and-where-do-you-see-testing-in-the-process-177","title":"What is your opinion on Lean Software Development and where do you see testing in the process?","lastPost":{"id":322,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" Lean Software Development is an agile software development methodology that focuses on reducing waste and maximizing value delivery to customers. It is based on the principles of the Toyota Production System and emphasizes continuous improvement, teamwork, and customer focus.<\/p> In Lean Software Development, testing is an integral part of the development process. Testing is not considered a separate phase but is instead integrated throughout the development cycle. This is because Lean Software Development emphasizes the need for continuous feedback and continuous improvement, which can only be achieved through continuous testing.<\/p> Testing in Lean Software Development is carried out in various forms, including unit testing, acceptance testing, and exploratory testing. Test automation is also an essential component of Lean Software Development, as it helps to reduce waste and improve efficiency. Automated testing helps to detect defects early in the development process, which reduces the cost of rework and improves the overall quality of the software.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/what-is-your-opinion-on-lean-software-development-and-where-do-you-see-testing-in-the-process-177?postid=322#post322","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:48:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":0,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":322,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":" Lean Software Development is an agile software development methodology that focuses on reducing waste and maximizing value delivery to customers. It is based on the principles of the Toyota Production System and emphasizes continuous improvement, teamwork, and customer focus.<\/p> In Lean Software Development, testing is an integral part of the development process. Testing is not considered a separate phase but is instead integrated throughout the development cycle. This is because Lean Software Development emphasizes the need for continuous feedback and continuous improvement, which can only be achieved through continuous testing.<\/p> Testing in Lean Software Development is carried out in various forms, including unit testing, acceptance testing, and exploratory testing. Test automation is also an essential component of Lean Software Development, as it helps to reduce waste and improve efficiency. Automated testing helps to detect defects early in the development process, which reduces the cost of rework and improves the overall quality of the software.<\/p> \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/development-methodologies-47\/what-is-your-opinion-on-lean-software-development-and-where-do-you-see-testing-in-the-process-177?postid=322#post322","creationDate":"2023-05-02T12:48:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":8,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"322"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wurSKYq3Ot8<\/a><\/p>
#HappyTesting\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=487#post487","creationDate":"2023-05-30T06:59:39+0000","relativeCreationDate":"19 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":56,"id":219,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219","title":"How much coding is required for software testers?","lastPost":{"id":509,"author":{"id":66,"url":"\/members\/basdijkstra-66","name":"basdijkstra","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/f58d4c39-8c58-4e81-ad27-8129e5252235.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wurSKYq3Ot8<\/a><\/p>
#HappyTesting\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=487#post487","creationDate":"2023-05-30T06:59:39+0000","relativeCreationDate":"19 days ago"},"numberOfViews":111,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"509"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"e9118d8a841efdc81b6d413bde80720688b5998c","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">
Why does this matter?<\/strong><\/h2>
Testers do not ensure or assure quality.<\/strong><\/h2>
Why does this matter?<\/strong><\/h2>
Testers do not ensure or assure quality.<\/strong><\/h2>
Why does this matter?<\/strong><\/h2>
Please help.
Regards,<\/p>
\u00a0<\/p>
\u00a0<\/p>
- you can use it for scraping data from websites and other applications.\u00a0
- it forces you to build modular vs monolithic test\u00a0
- You can use it for data loading
- You can use it as a general purpose macro\u00a0engine to tie together business processes<\/p>
- you can use it for scraping data from websites and other applications.\u00a0
- it forces you to build modular vs monolithic test\u00a0
- You can use it for data loading
- You can use it as a general purpose macro\u00a0engine to tie together business processes<\/p>
Well, a PM once told me that the tests should be written in such a way that a person coming from the street should be able to run them. I mean that is not impossible to do but it will take time, a lot of time. One has to find a way to explain concepts that are not really in the day to day dictionary ( API for example).<\/p>
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\tAnd never let the status quo reign,
\tWe learn and grow, and rearrange,
\tAnd celebrate each victory gained.
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\tThat we can build a strong foundation.
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\tWhere support and encouragement are always near,
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\tSo let us come together and shine,
\tIn this community so divine,
\tAnd work towards a future so fine,
\tWith ShiftSync, the possibilities are truly divine.\u201d<\/p>\t
\tWhere knowledge and skills are shared with delight,
\tWhere testers and developers unite,
\tTo help each other reach new heights.
\tA place where new ideas are born,
\tAnd old ones are challenged and torn,
\tWhere testing practices are reformed,
\tAnd innovation is the norm.
\tIn ShiftSync, we embrace the change,
\tAnd never let the status quo reign,
\tWe learn and grow, and rearrange,
\tAnd celebrate each victory gained.
\tWe encourage collaboration,
\tAnd value diverse participation,
\tFor it's through collective communication,
\tThat we can build a strong foundation.
\tShiftSync, a community of peers,
\tWhere support and encouragement are always near,
\tWhere testing excellence is always clear,
\tAnd everyone is a pioneer.
\tSo let us come together and shine,
\tIn this community so divine,
\tAnd work towards a future so fine,
\tWith ShiftSync, the possibilities are truly divine.\u201d<\/p>\t
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