问&获得答案

Hi community,<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

I have heard this many times: \u201cTesters must be able to code\u201d. Do you agree? In my latest video, I am sharing my point of view on this question. Do you agree? What is your experience on this topic?
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wurSKYq3Ot8<\/a><\/p>

Looking forward to reading from you.
#HappyTesting\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=487#post487","creationDate":"2023-05-30T06:59:39+0000","relativeCreationDate":"14 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":56,"id":219,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219","title":"How much coding is required for software testers?","lastPost":{"id":495,"author":{"id":56,"url":"\/members\/danielknott-56","name":"danielknott","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/31b1fa0f-35f2-409a-95d4-bdf6b72e333e.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"

Hi Gunesh,<\/p>

thanks for your comment and the link to the article. I totally agree with you. Reading code is an important skill and is something testers should not be afraid of.<\/p>

It will help to understand more about the implementation, the technology used and it trains the tester to see patterns in the code and to raise questions when needed.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=495#post495","creationDate":"2023-06-13T06:31:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"8 hours ago"},"lastReply":{"id":495,"author":{"id":56,"url":"\/members\/danielknott-56","name":"danielknott","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/31b1fa0f-35f2-409a-95d4-bdf6b72e333e.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"

Hi Gunesh,<\/p>

thanks for your comment and the link to the article. I totally agree with you. Reading code is an important skill and is something testers should not be afraid of.<\/p>

It will help to understand more about the implementation, the technology used and it trains the tester to see patterns in the code and to raise questions when needed.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=495#post495","creationDate":"2023-06-13T06:31:27+0000","relativeCreationDate":"8 hours ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":5,"numberOfLikes":4,"relevantPost":{"id":487,"author":{"id":56,"url":"\/members\/danielknott-56","name":"danielknott","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/31b1fa0f-35f2-409a-95d4-bdf6b72e333e.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"

Hi community,<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

I have heard this many times: \u201cTesters must be able to code\u201d. Do you agree? In my latest video, I am sharing my point of view on this question. Do you agree? What is your experience on this topic?
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wurSKYq3Ot8<\/a><\/p>

Looking forward to reading from you.
#HappyTesting\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/how-much-coding-is-required-for-software-testers-219?postid=487#post487","creationDate":"2023-05-30T06:59:39+0000","relativeCreationDate":"14 days ago"},"numberOfViews":88,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"495"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

Hi There,<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

I would like to hear from the industry experts based on their experience into\u00a0software test automation, what are the key responsibilities of a Test Architect in automation projects?<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

Looking forward to an interesting conversation and inputs\u00a0\ud83d\ude00<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=488#post488","creationDate":"2023-05-30T07:00:58+0000","relativeCreationDate":"14 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":57,"id":220,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220","title":"Automation Test Architect responsibilities","lastPost":{"id":489,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

I\u2019m working in this role currently. It can vary company to company, but some of the tasks involved could be:<\/p>

• Designing TA solutions which are maintainable, extensible, modular & follow good industry practices (SOLID, design patterns etc. if\/where needed), so that a project or program team can pickup & run with implementing it<\/li>\t
• Creating and maintaining TA frameworks, TA solutions or other shared\u00a0formats which can be used by all\/many projects & programs with TA across a company\u00a0<\/li>\t
• Setting up & maintaining knowledge sharing, communities of practice, centres of excellence, code pairing & similar\u00a0to bring TA engineers together + increase their skillset across a company<\/li>\t
• Having TA expertise enough to be placed into any problematic, slow performing TA solution to identify and solve issues - with code, vendor alignment, testability issues, requirement issues, environment or data issues\u00a0etc.\u00a0<\/li>\t
• Beefing up missing documentation, training material, mission statement, vision, governance etc. around TA company-wide<\/li>\t
• Sometimes being a go-to person for TA troubleshooting + support for projects when needed<\/li>\t
• Identifying the best-fit languages, TA frameworks, TA tools, data input and output methods\/types for a project or program\u00a0TA solution<\/li>\t
• Setup & overseeing of any company-wide shared TA team<\/li>\t
• Sometimes CV scanning & interviewing new TA members<\/li><\/ul>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=489#post489","creationDate":"2023-05-30T07:47:15+0000","relativeCreationDate":"14 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":489,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

  I\u2019m working in this role currently. It can vary company to company, but some of the tasks involved could be:<\/p>

  • Designing TA solutions which are maintainable, extensible, modular & follow good industry practices (SOLID, design patterns etc. if\/where needed), so that a project or program team can pickup & run with implementing it<\/li>\t
  • Creating and maintaining TA frameworks, TA solutions or other shared\u00a0formats which can be used by all\/many projects & programs with TA across a company\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • Setting up & maintaining knowledge sharing, communities of practice, centres of excellence, code pairing & similar\u00a0to bring TA engineers together + increase their skillset across a company<\/li>\t
  • Having TA expertise enough to be placed into any problematic, slow performing TA solution to identify and solve issues - with code, vendor alignment, testability issues, requirement issues, environment or data issues\u00a0etc.\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • Beefing up missing documentation, training material, mission statement, vision, governance etc. around TA company-wide<\/li>\t
  • Sometimes being a go-to person for TA troubleshooting + support for projects when needed<\/li>\t
  • Identifying the best-fit languages, TA frameworks, TA tools, data input and output methods\/types for a project or program\u00a0TA solution<\/li>\t
  • Setup & overseeing of any company-wide shared TA team<\/li>\t
  • Sometimes CV scanning & interviewing new TA members<\/li><\/ul>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=489#post489","creationDate":"2023-05-30T07:47:15+0000","relativeCreationDate":"14 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":1,"numberOfLikes":2,"relevantPost":{"id":488,"author":{"id":140,"url":"\/members\/abhijeet-yadav-140","name":"Abhijeet Yadav","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":"

    Hi There,<\/p>

    \u00a0<\/p>

    I would like to hear from the industry experts based on their experience into\u00a0software test automation, what are the key responsibilities of a Test Architect in automation projects?<\/p>

    \u00a0<\/p>

    Looking forward to an interesting conversation and inputs\u00a0\ud83d\ude00<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/automation-test-architect-responsibilities-220?postid=488#post488","creationDate":"2023-05-30T07:00:58+0000","relativeCreationDate":"14 days ago"},"numberOfViews":34,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"489"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

    一个

    Abhijeet Yadav 亚音速0.1

    张贴在问&获得答案

    自动化测试架构师的职责

    你好,我想听到的行业专家根据他们的经验到软件测试自动化,测试架构师的主要职责是什么自动化项目?188金宝搏官网登录app期待一个有趣的谈话和输入

    2 1

    一个

    14天前

Is testing an Art or a Science that everyone can learn? Is this inbuilt that needs to be refined, or it has to be acquired manually?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=445#post445","creationDate":"2023-05-16T13:19:18+0000","relativeCreationDate":"28 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":51,"id":208,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208","title":"What is testing for you?","lastPost":{"id":482,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"

25 years ago I was convinced by Jerry Weinberg to call it a craft. That has felt consistently comfortable over the years.<\/p>

There is considerable science behind the craft of testing, although very VERY few testers know much about that science.<\/p>

If you\u2019d\u00a0like to learn more about the science behind testing, you will have to delve into these fields:<\/p>

• Epistemology<\/li>\t
• Philosophy\/History of Science<\/li>\t
• Sociology\/Psychology<\/li>\t
• Cognitive Science<\/li>\t
• Rhetoric\/Critical Analysis<\/li>\t
• Certain branches of mathematics: statistics, set theory, discrete mathematics, combinatorics.<\/li><\/ul>

  Consider also that it is more interesting to say \u201ctesting IS science\u201d than to say that testing is A science. What scientists do-- what it literally means to think like a scientist-- is exactly what good testers must do.<\/p>

  The fact that testing IS science, explains why engineers are so uncomfortable with it. Engineers want to get things done. Engineering is finite. But science goes on and on. Scientists just keep asking questions and pursuing experiments.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=482#post482","creationDate":"2023-05-28T00:56:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"16 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":482,"author":{"id":91,"url":"\/members\/satisfice-91","name":"satisfice","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"

  25 years ago I was convinced by Jerry Weinberg to call it a craft. That has felt consistently comfortable over the years.<\/p>

  There is considerable science behind the craft of testing, although very VERY few testers know much about that science.<\/p>

  If you\u2019d\u00a0like to learn more about the science behind testing, you will have to delve into these fields:<\/p>

  • Epistemology<\/li>\t
  • Philosophy\/History of Science<\/li>\t
  • Sociology\/Psychology<\/li>\t
  • Cognitive Science<\/li>\t
  • Rhetoric\/Critical Analysis<\/li>\t
  • Certain branches of mathematics: statistics, set theory, discrete mathematics, combinatorics.<\/li><\/ul>

    Consider also that it is more interesting to say \u201ctesting IS science\u201d than to say that testing is A science. What scientists do-- what it literally means to think like a scientist-- is exactly what good testers must do.<\/p>

    The fact that testing IS science, explains why engineers are so uncomfortable with it. Engineers want to get things done. Engineering is finite. But science goes on and on. Scientists just keep asking questions and pursuing experiments.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=482#post482","creationDate":"2023-05-28T00:56:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"16 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":3,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":445,"author":{"id":48,"url":"\/members\/anuvip-48","name":"anuvip","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e61b7860-e55b-422b-b771-819c98701fcc.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":3},"content":"

    Is testing an Art or a Science that everyone can learn? Is this inbuilt that needs to be refined, or it has to be acquired manually?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/what-is-testing-for-you-208?postid=445#post445","creationDate":"2023-05-16T13:19:18+0000","relativeCreationDate":"28 days ago"},"numberOfViews":27,"contentType":"discussion","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"482"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

    

    anuvip 亚音速0.1

    张贴在问&获得答案

    是什么测试吗?

    测试是一门艺术或科学,每个人都可以学习吗?这是内置的,需要精炼,或必须获得手动吗?

    3 3

    年代

    16天前

Hi Community,\u00a0I would like to know how the security testing is performed and Is there any tools which<\/p>

is used to scan the code and identify the\u00a0vulnerabilities in the code.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=465#post465","creationDate":"2023-05-23T12:52:10+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":48,"id":214,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214","title":"Security testing","lastPost":{"id":471,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

There are another set of tools for the code which can be used by developers and\/or security testers. If you search the web for \u201csecurity scan code\u201d or \u201cstatic code analysis\u201d, you\u2019ll be able to find a few of these which are often run in the IDE<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=471#post471","creationDate":"2023-05-24T07:55:05+0000","relativeCreationDate":"20 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":471,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

There are another set of tools for the code which can be used by developers and\/or security testers. If you search the web for \u201csecurity scan code\u201d or \u201cstatic code analysis\u201d, you\u2019ll be able to find a few of these which are often run in the IDE<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=471#post471","creationDate":"2023-05-24T07:55:05+0000","relativeCreationDate":"20 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":2,"numberOfLikes":2,"relevantPost":{"id":465,"author":{"id":74,"url":"\/members\/harish-n-74","name":"Harish N","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":2},"content":"

Hi Community,\u00a0I would like to know how the security testing is performed and Is there any tools which<\/p>

is used to scan the code and identify the\u00a0vulnerabilities in the code.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/security-testing-214?postid=465#post465","creationDate":"2023-05-23T12:52:10+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfViews":17,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"471"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

I\u2019m new to games testing , so I was wondering if there are any tools out there which uses re-enforced learning or ML to navigate through the game ?<\/p>

The game is being developed in Unity and I know Unity has tools to script automated tests but I\u2019m more looking for tools which automatically would be able to traverse the game.\u00a0
\u00a0<\/p>

is there a tool out there which would do this?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=426#post426","creationDate":"2023-05-11T08:26:22+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":45,"id":203,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isAnswered","label":"beantwoord"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203","title":"Games Testing","lastPost":{"id":463,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

This would be fascinating to learn for personal interest too\u2026\u00a0I\u2019ve never done games testing.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

There are so many engines running in parallel - physics, pixel rendering, collision detection, lighting & raytracing\u00a0etc. I would imagine each of those would need thoroughly testing independently first before the whole game.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

Then the game itself - 2D chess, 3D FPS, 3D 3rd person RPG, racing, sports. If there was a generalised solution I couldn\u2019t imagine the amount of work that must have gone into that!<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=463#post463","creationDate":"2023-05-23T08:06:30+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":463,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

This would be fascinating to learn for personal interest too\u2026\u00a0I\u2019ve never done games testing.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

There are so many engines running in parallel - physics, pixel rendering, collision detection, lighting & raytracing\u00a0etc. I would imagine each of those would need thoroughly testing independently first before the whole game.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

Then the game itself - 2D chess, 3D FPS, 3D 3rd person RPG, racing, sports. If there was a generalised solution I couldn\u2019t imagine the amount of work that must have gone into that!<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=463#post463","creationDate":"2023-05-23T08:06:30+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":4,"numberOfLikes":3,"relevantPost":{"id":426,"author":{"id":260,"url":"\/members\/footballfan007-260","name":"footballfan007","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":0},"content":"

I\u2019m new to games testing , so I was wondering if there are any tools out there which uses re-enforced learning or ML to navigate through the game ?<\/p>

The game is being developed in Unity and I know Unity has tools to script automated tests but I\u2019m more looking for tools which automatically would be able to traverse the game.\u00a0
\u00a0<\/p>

is there a tool out there which would do this?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/games-testing-203?postid=426#post426","creationDate":"2023-05-11T08:26:22+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":105,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"463"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

I am a sales guy at Tricentis. I have a prospect asking me \u201cwhat are the unexpected benefits of Tosca?\u201d We have talked about all of the expected benefits (300% Plus ROI. Faster releases. Better quality releases. Increased risk coverage. Overall reduction in cost. etc) but she wants to get a feeling for the unanticipated value that her testers may experience.<\/p>

The list I have so far is:
- you can use it for scraping data from websites and other applications.\u00a0
- it forces you to build modular vs monolithic test\u00a0
- You can use it for data loading
- You can use it as a general purpose macro\u00a0engine to tie together business processes<\/p>

Any other thoughts? What value have you gotten from Tosca that you weren\u2019t expecting?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209?postid=447#post447","creationDate":"2023-05-18T19:27:02+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":46,"id":209,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209","title":"Unanticipated beefits of Tosca?","lastPost":{"id":462,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

I come at this answer from someone who\u2019s evaluated Tosca against other tools but not seen or used it outside of PoCs & demos\u2026 here are a couple from the top of my head if this might be of use<\/p>

• centralised for testing different technologies (websites, APIs, databases etc.).\u00a0<\/li>\t
• any project team member can execute the tests, no IDE or programming knowledge needed\u00a0<\/li>\t
• out-of-the-box export & communication to qTest<\/li>\t
• large SAP support, preferred TA partner & the functionality the close collaboration with them bought<\/li>\t
• constant innovation (LiveCompare, OneTestDefinition etc.) for use of ML, further time saving aids & more narrowed, specific testing focuses<\/li><\/ul>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209?postid=462#post462","creationDate":"2023-05-23T08:01:34+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":462,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

  I come at this answer from someone who\u2019s evaluated Tosca against other tools but not seen or used it outside of PoCs & demos\u2026 here are a couple from the top of my head if this might be of use<\/p>

  • centralised for testing different technologies (websites, APIs, databases etc.).\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • any project team member can execute the tests, no IDE or programming knowledge needed\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • out-of-the-box export & communication to qTest<\/li>\t
  • large SAP support, preferred TA partner & the functionality the close collaboration with them bought<\/li>\t
  • constant innovation (LiveCompare, OneTestDefinition etc.) for use of ML, further time saving aids & more narrowed, specific testing focuses<\/li><\/ul>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209?postid=462#post462","creationDate":"2023-05-23T08:01:34+0000","relativeCreationDate":"21 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":1,"numberOfLikes":2,"relevantPost":{"id":447,"author":{"id":116,"url":"\/members\/tompayne-116","name":"tompayne","avatar":"","userTitle":"Employee","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Employee","color":"#096fed"},"userLevel":1},"content":"

    I am a sales guy at Tricentis. I have a prospect asking me \u201cwhat are the unexpected benefits of Tosca?\u201d We have talked about all of the expected benefits (300% Plus ROI. Faster releases. Better quality releases. Increased risk coverage. Overall reduction in cost. etc) but she wants to get a feeling for the unanticipated value that her testers may experience.<\/p>

    The list I have so far is:
    - you can use it for scraping data from websites and other applications.\u00a0
    - it forces you to build modular vs monolithic test\u00a0
    - You can use it for data loading
    - You can use it as a general purpose macro\u00a0engine to tie together business processes<\/p>

    Any other thoughts? What value have you gotten from Tosca that you weren\u2019t expecting?<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/unanticipated-beefits-of-tosca-209?postid=447#post447","creationDate":"2023-05-18T19:27:02+0000","relativeCreationDate":"25 days ago"},"numberOfViews":35,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"462"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

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    tompayne 员工

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    意外beefits托斯卡吗?

    我是一个销售人Tricentis。188金宝搏app苹果下载软件我有一个前景问我“托斯卡的意想不到的好处是什么?“我们已经讨论了所有的预期利益(300% + ROI。更快的释放。质量更好的版本。风险增加覆盖范围。总体成本的降低。等),但她想要得到意料之外的价值,她感觉测试人员可能会经历。The list I have so far is:- you can use it for scraping data from websites and other applications. - it forces you to build modular vs monolithic test - You can use it for data loading- You can use it as a general purpose macro engine to tie together business processesAny other thoughts? What value have you gotten from Tosca that you weren’t expecting?

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    21天前

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\u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=325#post325","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:33:45+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"isTopicUnread":true,"privateId":22,"id":179,"type":"post","hasCurrentUserLiked":false,"isSticky":false,"features":[{"id":"isQuestion","label":"vraag"}],"forum":{"id":49,"isIdeation":false,"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49","title":"Ask & get answers","description":"Get inspired, help others and gain all the knowledge you need"},"url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179","title":"Assertions","lastPost":{"id":460,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

Always in the test cases or test steps. This places it squarely at the individual project\u2019s requirement responsibility & enables maximum reuse, shared understanding + clarity (ways of working of where to expect the assertions) then ease of maintenance.\u00a0<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

• POM level:<\/strong>\u00a0\t
  • projectA adds a method to Application123\u2019s\u00a0LoginPage POM, which asserts that submitted credentials result in a successful login and the dashboard page then showing with \u201cwelcome, UserName\u201d shown.<\/li>\t\t
  • projectA then needs to add negative test cases, either the POM method now needs a conditional branch or a duplicated method reversing the assertion<\/li>\t\t
  • ProjectB with another team wants to interact with the same Application123 from their project. Their validation criteria is to check the look & feel of the page - the dashboard page displays the company logo in the right place, the font style & background colours are as expected (they don\u2019t care about the welcome, UserName\u201d text)<\/li>\t<\/ul><\/li>\t
  • Test Automation Framework:<\/strong> can be the same<\/li>\t
  • Helper methods:<\/strong> depend on where they\u2019re located - are they test case, test data, POM, reporting or other? In my view test case & test step helper methods work to have assertions, other places not<\/li><\/ul>

    \u00a0<\/p>

    In the above example, designing a LoginPage POM with methods such as isIncorrectLoginMessageShown(), getTextofIncorrectLoginMessage(), isUserNameEmpty(), isSubmitDisplayed(), then a DashboardPage POM with methods such as isPageDisplayedAndLoaded(), getWelcomeText() etc. will support more projects & give them each the responsibility of deciding what is a pass or failure criteria depending upon their own requirements.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=460#post460","creationDate":"2023-05-22T10:50:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"22 days ago"},"lastReply":{"id":460,"author":{"id":62,"url":"\/members\/alex-read-62","name":"alex_read","avatar":"","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":5},"content":"

    Always in the test cases or test steps. This places it squarely at the individual project\u2019s requirement responsibility & enables maximum reuse, shared understanding + clarity (ways of working of where to expect the assertions) then ease of maintenance.\u00a0<\/p>

    \u00a0<\/p>

    • POM level:<\/strong>\u00a0\t
      • projectA adds a method to Application123\u2019s\u00a0LoginPage POM, which asserts that submitted credentials result in a successful login and the dashboard page then showing with \u201cwelcome, UserName\u201d shown.<\/li>\t\t
      • projectA then needs to add negative test cases, either the POM method now needs a conditional branch or a duplicated method reversing the assertion<\/li>\t\t
      • ProjectB with another team wants to interact with the same Application123 from their project. Their validation criteria is to check the look & feel of the page - the dashboard page displays the company logo in the right place, the font style & background colours are as expected (they don\u2019t care about the welcome, UserName\u201d text)<\/li>\t<\/ul><\/li>\t
      • Test Automation Framework:<\/strong> can be the same<\/li>\t
      • Helper methods:<\/strong> depend on where they\u2019re located - are they test case, test data, POM, reporting or other? In my view test case & test step helper methods work to have assertions, other places not<\/li><\/ul>

        \u00a0<\/p>

        In the above example, designing a LoginPage POM with methods such as isIncorrectLoginMessageShown(), getTextofIncorrectLoginMessage(), isUserNameEmpty(), isSubmitDisplayed(), then a DashboardPage POM with methods such as isPageDisplayedAndLoaded(), getWelcomeText() etc. will support more projects & give them each the responsibility of deciding what is a pass or failure criteria depending upon their own requirements.<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=460#post460","creationDate":"2023-05-22T10:50:28+0000","relativeCreationDate":"22 days ago"},"numberOfUnreadReplies":0,"numberOfReplies":3,"numberOfLikes":5,"relevantPost":{"id":325,"author":{"id":50,"url":"\/members\/ioan-50","name":"IOan","avatar":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/icon\/200x200\/e6a90819-1f6c-4978-bedc-adc050148b68.png","userTitle":"Subsonic 0.1","rank":{"isBold":false,"isItalic":false,"isUnderline":false,"name":"Subsonic 0.1"},"userLevel":4},"content":"

        \u00a0<\/p>

        \u00a0<\/p>","url":"\/ask-get-answers-49\/assertions-179?postid=325#post325","creationDate":"2023-05-02T13:33:45+0000","relativeCreationDate":"1 month ago"},"numberOfViews":47,"contentType":"question","featuredImage":"","publicLabel":"","category":{"url":"\/discussions-5","categoryId":5,"title":"Discussions","metaRobots":"index, follow","type":0},"lastPostId":"460"},"isActivityPage":null,"showUnsubscribeBtn":null,"attachmentCdn":"https:\/\/uploads-us-west-2.insided.com\/tricentis-en\/attachment\/","isGuest":true,"csrfToken":"25946753ddfa85ba566706daca393f22f0852055","hideCategoryMetadata":false,"phrases":{"Forum":{"thread.unsubscribe":"Unsubscribe","vraag":"Question","beantwoord":"Solved","topic.list.metadata.asked.in":"asked in","topic.list.metadata.published.in":"published in","topic.list.metadata.shared.in":"shared in","topic.list.metadata.posted.in":"posted in"}}}">

        

        IOan 亚音速0.1

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