软件测试人员需要编码多少?188金宝搏官网登录app

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danielknott
Userlevel 2
徽章 + 1

嗨,社区,

我听说过很多次这样的经历:“测试人员必须能够代码”。你同意吗?在我最近的视频,我分享我的观点在这个问题上。你同意吗?你的经验关于这个主题是什么呢?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wurSKYq3Ot8

期待从你阅读。
# HappyTesting

Hi community,<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>

I have heard this many times: \u201cTesters must be able to code\u201d. Do you agree? In my latest video, I am sharing my point of view on this question. Do you agree? What is your experience on this topic?
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wurSKYq3Ot8<\/a><\/p>

Looking forward to reading from you.
#HappyTesting\u00a0<\/p>","quoteUsername":"danielknott","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

6个回答

一个
Userlevel 5
徽章 + 3

很棒的主题!就我个人而言,我完全同意你的意见和分享你的意见:不需要编码能够测试。

我的经验已经与许多公司合作,有不同的角色,分离出那些知道编码和那些不。不同角色广告&采访的,适合不同的测试位置:

  • 的手工测试人员创建测试用例和步骤的工具,进行探索性测试,有沟通和分析能力,结合业务团队成员设定需求,监督和执行UAT或组织业务成员
  • “用户体验测试”
  • 可访问性测试人员的
  • 测试自动化工程师,sdet”等。
  • “性能测试”
  • 安全测试人员的

如果/哪里有这样的狭隘与特定的角色,那么自动化和性能测试的角色* *在我看来应该知道编程。我的经验已经工作了几十年有测试人员运用这些特定角色没有程序员心态以及测试人员的心态,可悲的是被很快的深度,需要额外的支持和培训费用公司+项目多意想不到的时间和金钱。

Awesome topic! Personally, here I agree with you completely & share your opinion: no coding is necessary to be able to test.\u00a0\ud83d\udc4d<\/p>

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My experience has been working with many companies which have different roles which separate out those who know coding and those which don\u2019t. Different roles are advertised & interviewed for, suiting different testing positions:\u00a0<\/p>

  • \u2018manual testers\u2019 who create test cases & steps in a tool, perform exploratory testing, have communication and analytical skills to align with business team members setting requirements and oversee & or organise business members performing UAT<\/li>\t
  • \u2018user experience testers\u2019<\/li>\t
  • \u2018accessibility testers\u2019\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • \u2018test automation engineers\u2019, \u2018SDETs\u2019 etc.\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • \u2018performance testers\u2019\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • \u2018security testers\u2019<\/li><\/ul>

    If\/where there are narrowly-defined & specific roles such as these, then the automation and performance testing roles *should* in my view know programming. My experience has been working for decades with testers applying those specific roles without the programmer mindset as well as the tester mindset, sadly\u00a0being out-of-their depth very quickly, needing additional support & training which costs the company + project much unexpected time and money.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"alex_read","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

一个
Userlevel 5
徽章 + 3

我完全支持你的观点的学习编程成为一个更好的测试人员也在这里——任何争取持续改进和提高知识更好的测试是令人钦佩的&知道编程将帮助在很多方面,可能包括:

  • 更好的沟通和理解说话的时候开发人员实现或错误
  • 更好地理解产品/系统的可能,如果更多类型的架构图像低级UML可以理解
  • 更好的分析技能可能会导致一个错误的增加了解电脑的操作——内存,协议、网络等。
  • 更好的沟通和调整与其他专业的测试,性能,安全
  • 更好的沟通和与其他项目或公司成员对齐- UI设计师、业务或网络团队等。

这并不是说其他改进等领域需求分析、沟通、项目管理知识应该被忽略,但也许编程作为第一步将提供最大的好处……

I completely support your points on the idea of learning programming to become a better tester also here - any strive for continuous improvement & improving knowledge to be a better tester is admirable & knowing programming will aid in so many ways, potentially including:\u00a0<\/p>
  • better communication & understanding when speaking to developers on implementation or bugs<\/li>\t
  • better understanding potentially of the product\/system, if more types of architecture diagrams like lower level UML can be understood\u00a0<\/li>\t
  • better analysis skills of what might be causing a bug with increased understanding of how computers operate - memory, protocols, networking etc.<\/li>\t
  • better communication & alignment with other testing specialties - performance, security<\/li>\t
  • better communication & alignment with other project or company members - UI designers, operations or networking teams etc.\u00a0<\/li><\/ul>

    This is not to say other improvement areas such as demand analysis, communication, project management knowledge should be overlooked, but perhaps programming as a 1st step would provide the widest benefit...<\/p>","quoteUsername":"alex_read","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

danielknott
Userlevel 2
徽章 + 1

谢谢你的评论,亚历克斯。同意你的观点:)。

有这么多的“只是”多编码。不幸的是,如果工程经理照顾测试人员测试的心态,通常会导致一个错误的软件测试人员的角色。188金宝搏官网登录app

Thanks for your comment, Alex. Agree with you, too :).<\/p>

There is so much more than \u201cjust\u201d coding. Unfortunately, if engineering managers take care of testers without a testing mindset, will usually lead to a wrong picture of the role of software tester.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"danielknott","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

gunesh
Userlevel 2
徽章 + 2

嘿 @danielknott,谢谢你提出这个话题。虽然我同意提到的所有的点 @alex_read,我坚信,测试人员应该能够“阅读”如果不是代码的代码的代码。

有很多好处,我强烈推荐这篇文章,艾米,https://amymhaddad.com/why-reading-code-matters尽管它更倾向于开发人员,我同意“阅读通知写作”中提到的点,他们会帮助测试人员。

Gunesh帕蒂尔(解放测试仪)
hey @danielknott<\/user-mention>\u00a0, thanks for bringing up the topic. While I agree with all the points mentioned by @alex_read<\/user-mention>\u00a0, I strongly believe that testers should be able to \u2018read\u2019 the code if not \u2018code\u2019 code.<\/p>

There are lot of benefits to it, I highly recommend this article by Amy,\u00a0https:\/\/amymhaddad.com\/why-reading-code-matters<\/a>\u00a0though it\u2019s more inclined towards developers, I agree with the points mentioned in \u2018Reading Informs Writing\u2019 and they would help testers as well.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"gunesh","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

danielknott
Userlevel 2
徽章 + 1

嗨Gunesh,

谢谢你的评论和文章的链接。我完全同意你的观点。阅读代码是一个重要的技能,是测试人员不应该害怕。

它将有助于理解更多关于实现中,使用的技术和训练测试人员看到模式的代码,并在需要时提出问题。

Hi Gunesh,<\/p>

thanks for your comment and the link to the article. I totally agree with you. Reading code is an important skill and is something testers should not be afraid of.<\/p>

It will help to understand more about the implementation, the technology used and it trains the tester to see patterns in the code and to raise questions when needed.<\/p>

\u00a0<\/p>","quoteUsername":"danielknott","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

basdijkstra
Userlevel 2
徽章 + 1

嗨Gunesh,

谢谢你的评论和文章的链接。我完全同意你的观点。阅读代码是一个重要的技能,是测试人员不应该害怕。

它将有助于理解更多关于实现中,使用的技术和训练测试人员看到模式的代码,并在需要时提出问题。

我要写一个长答案,但基本上可以归结为这一点。我想看到测试人员足够舒适的代码与那些有意义的对话或者说是(I / o) te。其他都是一个奖金。

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Hi Gunesh,<\/p>\t

thanks for your comment and the link to the article. I totally agree with you. Reading code is an important skill and is something testers should not be afraid of.<\/p>\t

It will help to understand more about the implementation, the technology used and it trains the tester to see patterns in the code and to raise questions when needed.<\/p>\t

\u00a0<\/p>\t<\/div><\/content-quote>

I was going to write a long answer here, but it basically boils down to this. I\u2019d like to see testers comfortable enough around code to have meaningful conversations with those who wr(i\/o)te it. Everything else is a bonus.<\/p>","quoteUsername":"basdijkstra","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote & Reply","Share":"Share"}}}">

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